Roundabouts gaining traction in America
The roundabout is a sight all too common in Europe and other parts of the world. In fact, according to this article on the Economist, Britain has 10,000, Australia 15,000 and France 20,000. Here in the United States, we have about 1,000 of the modern style roundabout's, as opposed to so-called "traffic circles" which are not as efficient and allow pedestrian traffic. The U.S. adds about 150 to 250 new roundabouts a year. The benefits are hard to overlook, with safety standing out loud and clear: "A 2001 study by the IIHS found that roundabouts have 80% fewer crashes with injuries than ordinary intersections." Of course, readers here at AutoblogGreen will also be glad to hear that roundabouts also save gas by not forcing cars to sit still at red lights waiting for their turn to go, which also has the benefit of saving time.
With Nascar being such a popular part of American culture, you'd think that drivers would feel at ease only turning left, no?
[Source: The Economist]
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John M 6:49PM (8/15/2007)
It doesn't make sense to call roundabouts "all too common" when, as you quote, "A 2001 study by the IIHS found that roundabouts have 80% fewer crashes with injuries than ordinary intersections."
It would make some sense to say that roundabouts are all too rare a sight in the US.
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snakesausage 9:11PM (8/15/2007)
I drove a few thousand miles on a trip to Europe last year and at first I really didn’t like “roundabouts” at first but after a day or so I found that they are really more efficient because I rarely had to stop. The only time that they were not as efficient is in Italy when they were about 0.5km in diameter (most others were about 0.1km) and had too many intersections. Those large circles were under some autostrasses and would get clogged because almost everyone wanted to take one exit to get onto the autostrasse. But then again, generally the freeway design in Italy was very confusing. I think that once we get enough in the US so that enough people see the advantages it will be like a national epiphany and we will start to see them pop up everywhere.
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jg3 10:05PM (8/15/2007)
You don't turn left in a traffic circle in the US. That would bring the IIHS safety numbers down quite quickly.
I prefer circles to lighted intersections anytime, go through one nearly every day, and it's the only intersection in that urban area that's not backed up.
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Tim from Texas 11:14PM (8/15/2007)
Perhaps you meant turning to the right?
I'm just back from Scandinavia, where even they went to the right on right-side-drive countries, correct? I think NASCAR goes clockwise - or do they flip the film image in left-side countries so you don't feel funny?
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Alistair 12:46AM (8/16/2007)
The thing about roundabouts is that you don't have to stop. Think about all the local governments that use traffic tickets as a source of revenue. All the traffic cops that will have to find other work to do. Oh dear oh dear....
The other thing is that not needing to stop requires the ability to judge relative speeds of other traffic, something that the average person driving a car in the US does not need since stop signs remove all need for that skill. Still, once acquired it should improve the skill level of the average motorist on US road. Now that just leaves Canada - or is Mexico just as backward as well?
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Ian 2:22AM (8/16/2007)
Here in the US driver training is such a joke that adding these will initally cause confusion, which I have witnessed first hand. That said, I prefer them to regular intersections.
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Chris M 3:26AM (8/16/2007)
Here in Modesto, there were two roundabouts installed recently. While there were a few complaints, they work very well where installed.
They work best where there is low to medium traffic, and can reduce the number of stops. Please note that sometimes you have to stop for traffic already in the roundabout.
There are only two problems:
1) it takes more land than a standard intersection, and
2) they may cause problems if the traffic flow is extremely high.
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rgseidl 6:48AM (8/16/2007)
Roundabouts do not work well when they have many lanes. Two is pretty much the maximum. If you don't believe me, try driving around the Arc de Triomphe if you're ever in Paris.
As far as land use goes, that depends on how you define "use". With a small roundabout, the circular patch in the middle can only be used for a flower bed and perhaps a fountain or else, a tree. This helps to pretty up the neighborhood, an important consideration for real estate values.
Larger roundabouts permit the construction of a structure in the center, accessed via bridges or underground tunnels. Unfortunately, these opportunities are only very rarely exploited. This appears to be mostly a failure of imagination.
Taking this to the extreme, you could build an entire town consisting whose primary transport infrastructure consists entirely of six-sided ring roads, with each straight stretch a few hundred yards long. A honeycomb of giant roundabouts, if you will. Depending on local traffic volume, the three-way intersections at the corners would be served by small, regular roundabouts, double-decker roundabouts (one of each driving direction) or else, flyover structures. On- and off-ramps for accessing the individual enclosed districts would be located along the straight sections.
Other than not having any traffic lights or stop signs anywhere, there are a number of other advantages. First, as in a rectangular grid, you have redundancy so traffic can be routed around accident and construction sites. Second, and perhaps more importantly, each district is inherently nearly circular, i.e. it has a natural center which serves as its economic and cultural anchor point.
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gordon 11:00AM (8/16/2007)
my community has just been round-about-ed and it took some time to get used to but I like it. they were added to slow down traffic going by a school and a huge government lab. i think in this case they were put in to deter terrorism.
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amg 3:58PM (8/16/2007)
I agree with those above: initially I hated the concept of a roundabout but after driving in england for a week, I loved them. It does take a little while to get used to merging with circling traffic but once I did, I found it much more fun than sitting at a traffic light and twiddling my thumbs. Too bad we didn't jump on the roundabout bandwagon 70 years ago; it's probably too late for most urban areas to convert here in the States.
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lodel 11:16PM (8/16/2007)
Technically, the circle around the Arc de Triomphe is not a roundabout. It's just a circle.
Roundabouts sure as hell beats a 4-way intersection, but in the States I've seen a number of people actually stop once they are inside. But worst of all, people here are notorious for not signaling when exiting. How about selling your giant Ford truck and buying some courtesy! They work great 99% of the time.
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60gb ipod video.........$160
Apple 60 GB iPod Video====200 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Video====160 USD
and many more...............
NOTE: ALL PHONES ARE IN FACTORY SEALED BOXES, WITH
CHARGERS, ACCESSORIES, MANUALS INCLUDED.
FOR MORE INFORMATIONS PLEASE CONTACT US HERE.
Rose Davies
SALE MANAGER.
Email: roseyinkis1@yahoo.com
Email: mobilelaptopdealer77@yahoo.com
Tel:+44-7045703912
GTI GSM LINKS LTD.
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Rose 6:43PM (8/25/2007)
GTI GSM LINKS LTD.
OFFICE ADDRESS: 107 Dalton House60 Windsor Avenue London.
For sale brand new Nokia N93 $250,N90,N91,N70,8800 Sirocco gold ...
We sell high quality products of Electronics such as cellphones, laptops, LG Electronics, Plasma TV,Digital Cameras, Ipods ETC.
Rose Davies
SALE MANAGER.
GTI GSM LINKS LTD.
Email: roseyinkis1@yahoo.com
Email: mobilelaptopdealer77@yahoo.com
Tel:+44-7045703912
Games...
Play station 3 80GB Europe version for.. $300usd
Play station 3 60GB Us version for.. $280usd
Play station 3 Japan Version for.. $220usd
VIDEO GAMES......
SONY PSP GAMES
Sony PSP Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix ValuePack $200usd
Sony PSP Limited Edition(White) 20 Games+Car Kit Etc $250usd
Sony PSP Super Pack" - 5 Games With ExtraAccessories$190usd
Spider Man Movie, UMD Sampler $160usd $200usd
Sony PSP Limited Edition Ceramic White$160usd
Sony PSP - 3 Games, Spider Man Movie $270usd
Sony PSP Super Value Pack w/2 Game $160usd
Sony PSP Value Pack- 1 Racing Game $160usd
XBOX GAMES
Xbox 360 Platinum System cost$230usd
Xbox 360 System Bundle $210usd
Xbox 360 Core System Bundle $170usd
Xbox 360 Core Bundle $180usd
Xbox 360 Live Bundle $200usd
Xbox 360 $350usd
LAPTOPS
SONY VAIO A217S-- 100GB-- 512MB RAM-- XP HOME-------------$320
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO--------------$290
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$320
SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP------------------$400
SONY VAIO A397XP-- 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$450
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$280
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$300
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$250
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$350
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP-----------------$300
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO-------------$200
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO----------$360
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-A117S----------------------------------$420
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-S1XP------------------------------------$400
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP------------------------$260
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY--$350
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER-------------$520
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY--$410
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.5GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER---------$100
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- P20-102--------------------------$260
APPLE 5GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR-$310
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP PACK WIFI VERSION-$280
OQO MODEL 01 ULTRA PERSONAL COMPUTER (XP PRO)--------------$270
TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO A60 40GB-- C2.8GHZ-- 15INCH-- DVD/CDR$320
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (BLACK)----$270
FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK P7010 60GB-- P4 1.1GHZ-- 10.6INCH-- DVD/CDRW
$600
ASUS A4744K-LH AMD64 POWER WORKSTATION LAPTOP--------$360
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (RED)------$380
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (BLUE)-----$290
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP------------------------$300
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (YELLOW)--$230
TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB-- PM 1.5GHZ-- 14INCH-- WIFI-- DVD-CDRW----$310
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (SILVER)---$270
TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB-- 512MB-- XP PRO------------------$450
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- M30-742-------------------------------$550
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 1.8GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER--------------$500
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZD7145EA-----------------------------------$500
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZD7255EA-----------------------------------$500
APPLE CINEMA HD 23-INCH TFT LCD MONITOR---------------------$500
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN PCGK21 5Z----------------------------$500
SAMSUNG LAPTOP-- X30 LWC 1500--------------------------------$500
G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY-$600
SONY VAIO PCVW2 DESKTOP-------------------------------------$450
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART-------------------$400
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- M30-832----------------------------$400
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZT3215EA----------------------------------$550
SAMSUNG LAPTOP-- M40 HWM 745--------------------------------$500
Dell Latitude C640 1.8GHz P4 Laptop w/CD-RW......$350USD
Dell Inspiron XPS M140 Notebook Computer for Home.....$480USD
ThinkPad G40 2389 - C 2.5 GHz - 14.1" TFT IBM.....$580USD
Panasonic Toughbook 18 Touchscre......$500USD
Panasonic Toughbook 18 Touchscre......$500USD
HP Compaq Business Notebook nc8230 - Pentium M 760 2 GHz - 15.4"
TFT...$950USD
HP Compaq Mobile Workstation nw8240 - Pentium M 760 2 GHz - 15.4"
TFT...$780USD
MOBILE PHONES.
VIEW OUR PRICE LIST BELOW -- ALL BRAND NEW UNITS:
Models: Price:
Cellphones...
Nokia N93====250 USD
Nokia N92====230 USD,
Nokia N90====220 USD,
Nokia N80====200 USD
Nokia 8800====180 USD,
Nokia N70====170 USD,
Nokia 6680====140 USD,
Nokia N71====175 USD
Nextel 1930====130USD,
Nextel 1860=====112USD,
Nextel 1870====130 USD
Pamtero 600====140 USD,
Pamtero 650====150 USD,
Treo 650====130 USD
Treo 700====180 USD
Digital camerra
Acer cs-5530 digital camera=$150
Canon ixus 700 digital camera= $200
Canon ixus 750 digital camera =$160
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (jet black)=$210
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (Sahara)=$200
Canon power shot s80 digital camera = $220
Casio exilim ex-s500 digital camera (orange, )= $230
Digital blue qx5 digital microscope= $170
Fuji film finepix f10 digital camera =$150
Nikon d2x digital camera (body only)=$140
SIDEKICK
Sidekick II Cell Phone for 120usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 NOW with Service for 100usd
T-Mobile To Go Prepaid Sidekick II for 120usd
Sidekick II for T-Mobile with new service Plan 130usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone for 110 usd
1996 Transfer Case: Sidekick 1996, and 1997 automatic....$140 usd
Sidekick Basic Kit.......................................$150 usd
Sidekick II T-Mobile Cell Phone with Color Screen........$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone....................$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone.............$140 usd
Mobile Sidekick II.......................................$110 usd
ProTop 2 Piece Hardtop Suzuki Vitara / Chevy Tracker.....$150 usd
Protop 2 Piece Hardtop for Sidekick / Tracker ...........$160 usd
Original Extended Carbox Package 1989-1998...............$140 usd
Original Extended Carbox Sidekick/Tracker 2 &............$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone....................$130 usd
Siemens M55 ====120 USD
Siemens SL55 ====125 USD
Siemens SX45 ====155 USD
Siemens SX1 ====180 USD
Motorola V70=====105 USD
Motorola V80=====115 USD
Motorola E398=====125 USD
Motorola MPX200=====180 USD
Motorola V750=====125 USD
Sony Ericsson P900=====150 USD
Sony Ericsson P910i=====200 USD
Sony Ericsson K700=====180 USD
Sony Ericsson K300i=====150 USD
Sony Ericsson W600i=====180 USD
Sony Ericsson W800i=====200 USD
PLASMA TELEVISION
Panasonic TH-42PD50U Television.....$600USD
Panasonic TH-42PX50U Television.....$1000USD
Panasonic TH-50PX50U Television.....$1500USD
Panasonic TH-42PWD6UY Television....$500USD
Panasonic TH-42PD25U/P Television...$400USD
Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK Television....$450USD
Panasonic TH-65PHD7UY Television....$2500USD
Pioneer PDP-5050HD Television.......$1000USD
Panasonic TH-37PX50U Television....$500USD
Panasonic TH-42PX500U Television...$800USD
Sony KLV-32M1 Television.........$400USD
Sony PFM-42V1/S Television.........$500USD
Sony KDE-61XBR950 Television......$5000USD
Sony KDE-42XBR950 Television......$1000USD
Sony PFM-42X1/S Television.......$500USD
Sony KDE-42XS955 Television......$550USD
Sony FWD-50PX1/S Television.....$1200USD
Samsung HP-R4252 Television........$500USD
Samsung LN-R328W - LCD TV - 32....$500usd
Samsung LN-R408D - LCD TV - 40....$800usd
Samsung LT-P326W - LCD TV - 32....$650usd
Samsung LTM 225W - LCD TV - 22....$500usd
Samsung PPM63H3-plasma panel 63...$2000usd
Samsung HP-P5071 50-inch 1366X768 HD Plasma TV Ref.....$800usd
Samsung HPP5031 - plasma panel - 50...$1000usd
Pioneer PDP-5050HD Television.......$1000USD
Sharp 32" Aquos HD-Ready LCD TV....$500usd.
Ipods
Apple 20 GB iPod Nano====90 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A====70 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo====120usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A====70 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A====100 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ====120 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A====115 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod ShuffleMP3 Player====70 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A====100 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano====110 USD
30gb black ipod video.....$140
60gb ipod video.........$160
Apple 60 GB iPod Video====200 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Video====160 USD
and many more...............
NOTE: ALL PHONES ARE IN FACTORY SEALED BOXES, WITH
CHARGERS, ACCESSORIES, MANUALS INCLUDED.
FOR MORE INFORMATIONS PLEASE CONTACT US HERE.
Rose Davies
SALE MANAGER.
Email: roseyinkis1@yahoo.com
Email: mobilelaptopdealer77@yahoo.com
Tel:+44-7045703912
GTI GSM LINKS LTD.
Thanks
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