Coskata's cellulosic ethanol road show hits Thailand, China, Australia
Representatives from one of the GM-backed cellulosic ethanol concerns, Coskata, have been visiting the Asia-Pacific region recently to tout their anything-into-ethanol technology. In Thailand, they recommended that the Thai government work to make "Thailand the ethanol manufacturing hub for Asia," according to the Thai newspaper The Nation. Before committing to a Thai location, though, Coskata wants the government to have "clear-cut tax regulations, lower import tariffs for machines, and support in establishing investment." Coskata's chief marketing officer, Wes Bolsen, touted a three- to four-year break-even point for investors who help the company set up an ethanol facility there by 2012. Here in the U.S., Coskata is waiting on government aid before moving forward on a pilot plant.
[Source: The Nation (Thai newspaper)]
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Anonymous 3:02PM (4/05/2009)
Uh . . . is that a man or a woman in that picture?
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Herm 3:23PM (4/05/2009)
woman..
if it such a wonderful process.. why do they need gov backing?.. where are the investors and venture capitalists?
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gorr 3:38PM (4/05/2009)
This is just the natural ressources cartel at work. They killed humanity 85 billions years ago and they still hate humanity. Their mentality is that everything is their own, so they own and control everything: natural ressources, laws, taxes, banks, compagnies, trading, regulating, security, education, sciences, military, goverments, state employees, newspapers, toyota and gm presidents, internet, etc. If they don't get their unlimited pension plan or even if they got their unlimited pension plan , they still expect to destroy everything. They will always say that they know sciences because it's their religion and you are not invited. That's why there is no gazeous hydrogen cars for sale and that's why there is not a single fuel station selling and producing butanol 87 octane to 92 octane from green algae local farming.
If a single citizen buy for himself one (1) gazeous hydrogen car or buy one (1) gallon of butanol from green algae farming, then these chaps will get sick in the stomach for real. So they are easy to control, it's just that peoples are dead in their own head so you cannot reach no one actually. Everybody is absent or tilted.
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jharlan 10:51PM (4/05/2009)
Gorr:
Whaaaaaaaaaat?
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gorr 4:15PM (4/06/2009)
I said and i repeat that if one (1) car powered by gazeous hydrogen or if one (1) gallon of butanol from green algae farming is put on-sale then all peoples from the natural ressources cartel will be sick in the stomach. At least 70% of men and 10% of the woman.
That's why there is not a single one product of this kind on the market even if the entire world is industriaslized since 100 years. It's not so surprizing because 85 billions years ago all these chaps commited suicide and rejected all biology things for eternity but as you cannot die, then they still try to destroy biology . Biology is easilly destroyable but spirits live forever in pain unfortunatelly.
harlanx6 6:18PM (4/06/2009)
If you say so Gorr. It's way too far out there for me!
gorr 10:52AM (4/07/2009)
I say to you, empty head, to sell 1 gallon of butanol(gasoline) from green algae farming to 1 consumer and to sell 1 gazeous hydrogen car to 1 paying consumer. It's easy to understand if your head is not an empty sink.
harlanx6 12:12PM (4/07/2009)
Butanol is not gasoline, Gorr. It's a 4 carbon per molecule alcohol. Gaseous hydrogen is a technology that has no infrastructure and is just not practical. I understand what you are saying, but it's crazy. You have to sound sane or people just laugh it off.
What is your first language, because it's definitely not English.
gorr 3:58PM (4/09/2009)
To Harlanx6 : Then you know that butanol is not gasoline... LOL. Are you pathetic. What will it do if it's putted in a gasoline car ?? It will move forward with the same cararteristics of power and range. So why you oppose that one gallon of butanol been sold to one car customer. It's because your sick, pathetic, useless and plain depressed and do not qualified as a buyer bidder. 100 gallon of gasoline are sold each seconds, it's just plain suck that there are no alternative. This is communism dictated by people like you without ideas and without new ideas. You probably oppose anything you don't know and you know few things.
There is no competition in the auto-industry and this is the main problem, one type of car and one type of fuel and the rest like battery researchs are just jokes by mentally ill communists type of mentality peoples that are ignorants and depressed..
I said and i repeat that if one(1) gallon of butanol is sold to one(1) car consumer, then 70% of men and 10% of women will be sick in the stomach.
harlanx6 9:29PM (4/09/2009)
Take your pills, Gorr and everything will be OK.
Bill 11:48AM (4/06/2009)
Unsurprisingly, yet another ethanol company with its hand out for more...handouts.
Ethanol from cellulose will always be more expensive than ethanol from corn starch or sugarcane, because of the difficulty in breaking cellulose down to fermentable sugars.
There's also a lot of handwaving going on as to where specfically and at what price they'll get the cellulose feedstock.
Better to DROP all import tariffs and buy ethanol on the world market.
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CNCMike 12:15PM (4/06/2009)
Why are we fooling around with all the genetically modified organisms to try and make ethanol from cellulose. Brazil is making ethanol from sugar cane stalk and leaf cellulose for 50 cents a gallon using a weak acid hydolysis process that has worked for hundreds of years. The process breaks the cellulose down into C5 and C6 sugars. Standard brewers yeast will produce ethanol from the C6 sugars and the C5 sugars could easily be fermented into methane to use a motor fuel or to produce heat and electricity for the distilling process.
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jharlan 6:28PM (4/06/2009)
I am certainly not against any fuel we can make here that is cost effective and relatively clean, and the alcohols do meet that criteria. I think CNG is easier, cheaper, and we have a huge abundance of it, and it is already piped nearly everywhere. Why aren't we subsidizing it? It should be a key part of our national energy policy. Do you think that maybe oil industry corruption is working against these technologies? Naaaaaaaaw!
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