@gorr

People like you just will not shut up until you get a job on the assembly line and realize how tough it actually is to produce these batteries. Toyota is doing everything they can to meet demand, but the battery manufacturers are having trouble catching up to demand.

Despite what some idiots may think, there is not an abundance of companies who produce these batteries and most can only produce 500,000 or less a year, sounds like a lot when you think about how many hybrids will be built, but not all of those battery resources go into hybrids, EVs or Hydrogen concepts.

Big Oil is not "EVIL" gorr, they are a business, they sell a product and they want that product to do well. Even if the nonsense you speak about auto-oil cooperation were true, it is not illegal for such agreements to occur, it is not even unethical, this happens in business ALL THE TIME. We may not like it, but it is not corrupt or illegal.

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@ Reality
Big oil, IS evil, and it IS corrupt and unethical.
I could tell you some fact that would make your head spin abouty how much they are willing to do to make sure every penny ends up in their pocket. They Lobby with the best of them. They make agreements with all the largest manufactures in the world, both in the chemical and auto manufacturing. I'll give you an example, of a both unethical and greedy activity:

Many years ago, it was discovered the melithium-delsulfide could be added to motor oil to make it last 10-20 times longer, being 50k-100k miles before an oil change. This would save billions of gallons a year of motor oil, bring down pollution, disposal fees, help the publics pocket, as well as helping cars run more reliably and longer. The largest oil companies signed a contact for billions with dow corning so that dow could never add its products to in any way further the abilities of auto mobiles, and this stands today that you could have 50-100,000 miles an oil change, but you have 10-20 times as many, due to nothing short of pure stagnant greed. At the expense of everyone except oil CEOs.

If you don't find that illogical, unethical, and corrupt then I don't know of anything you could, and I would advise some philosophical and deductive reasoning classes at your local college.

There are plenty more examples if you would wish me to carry on, but all and all I'm trying to point out to you, you're a number in a system and a penny in the pocket of these guys and they could care less if you were alive or dead, so stop defending them as if you're being paid to.

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I think that's it's worth mentionning that every ones in subsidies business are casching money over the table, from consumers and under the table to continue trading petrol money. Few are interrested in selling a green car, even a natural gas car or truck. Look at the numbers. 99.9% of gasoline or diesel and 0.1% of silly battery car.

Peoples didn't realize yet before you and me said so that gm, toyota, honda, ford, chrsler, mercedes, volkwagen, nissan managers were casching money over the table and especially under the table to not put green cars on the market while doing false pr campaings about how hard they try to cut fuel consumption while casching money from their consumers and selling them to big-oil and sudden tax increases and sudden price hack at the fuel pumps.

Just check reality, toyota, gm, ford, honda, mazda, volk, etc are casching lots of money
illegally to maintain petrol trading and are not interrested whatsoever in offering a green car to anyone at all. If you suffocate, then don't drive, don't work, don
't exist and don
't speak, don't go far and live alone in the contry and pay tax for green studies.

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@gnorr & brent (if you are different people)

Neither of you have stated any facts, only pure speculation and, to be honest, probably flat out lies. You are the type of people who take a "rumor" or just make one up and twist it around to seem unethical.

Case in point:

GM cut the EV1 Program
Reason: EV1 was in low demand and cost WAY too much to make and was a very poor product for the cost.

Your Spin:
GM had a under-the-table agreement to prevent the launch of the EV1 with George W. Bush and The Oil business all involved.

You guys are just those types of people who want something and will peddle false rumors and nonsense to get what you want. You are no better than the health care industry spreading false rumors about reform...

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I sat in one today at a Lexus Dealer near my home. It's a nice car...certainly more interesting that a Camry Hybrid or an ES. They had two and the salesman was well aware that there would be shortages.

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